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Who is the actual liar, Obama or Joe Wilson?

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Joe Wilson may have erred and is the source of condemnation of his party, but virtually nobody is discussing Obama's bitterly partisan speech or his ideas - no, Joe Wilson is the topic of conversation. Job well done, whether intentional or not. However a divide between the left and right continues to rage and now the nitty -gritty regarding illegal immigrant coverage is on the forefront. So, who is the actual liar? First of all, we need to figure out just how many illegal immigrants are in this country. This number varies drastically depending on source, here are just some examples: Center for Immigration Studies : 6 million New York Times : 11-12 million Department of Homeland Security : 11.5 million American Resistance : 15-20 million Let us also assume that tracking people without any documentation or formal entry is very difficult and estimating these numbers is hardly an exact science. Let us however assume that the number is closer to 12 million because that was the number c

Was Joe Wilson justified in calling Obama a liar?

Perhaps Joe Wilson achieved the unintended when he accused Obama of lying yesterday during the much anticipated health reform speech. Every blog, news source, cooler conversation is buzzing about yesterday's reaction. Today on talk radio in the morning, callers were passionately arguing the actions of Joe Wilson and condemnation from Wilson's party has been vociferous . In this video , you can see for yourself what the hoopla is all about and notice Obama comes out slinging first accusing Republicans of spreading bogus lies and being cynical. While I found the entire experience enjoyable, it was only because of the factual underpinnings - that is Obama was indeed being less than truthful and as discussed in my previous post, the usual number of 45+ million uninsured most DEFINITELY includes illegal immigrants. However, Joe Wilson broke with tradition and interrupted a presidential speech to a joint meeting of Congress. As with any kind of argument about the spread of gove